Comments on: EightShapes Unify http://wireframes.linowski.ca/2009/10/eightshapes-unify/ Because every IA has something funky up their sleeve Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:18:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mark http://wireframes.linowski.ca/2009/10/eightshapes-unify/comment-page-1/#comment-6362 Mark Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:25:23 +0000 http://wireframes.linowski.ca/?p=1609#comment-6362 You can also use Option/Alt-double click on a placed image to edit original, and the layer comps dropdown in the Object Layer Options dialog is great for PSDs with tonnes of layers.. You can also use Option/Alt-double click on a placed image to edit original, and the layer comps dropdown in the Object Layer Options dialog is great for PSDs with tonnes of layers..

]]> By: Nathan http://wireframes.linowski.ca/2009/10/eightshapes-unify/comment-page-1/#comment-6434 Nathan Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:28:13 +0000 http://wireframes.linowski.ca/?p=1609#comment-6434 Thanks for your compliments. Actually, while InDesign does not support in-document symbol reuse (as Fireworks and Illustrator do), it DOES support cross file linked INDD documents, which replicates if not broadens the variation of reuse. In fact, cross document reuse, using appropriately sized INDD documents (instead of solely inside-document symbols) heightens reuse and sacrifices nothing that you get with Fireworks or Illustrator. Keys to becoming a cross file INDD ninja: 1) Learn File > Place, including the import options in the subsequent dialog 2) Learn how to crop placed files to reveal only what you want to (essentially, store multiple states in a placed INDD and crop to the variation of interest) 3) Learn Edit > Edit Original, such that you clicked on the placed instance, "Edit Original", it opens the other file, make changes, save, close, return to original file. Same flow as working with Symbols. 4) Make a keyboard shortcut for Edit Original 5) Geek out on showing specific layers and/or pages when placing (again, the import options in the Place dialog as well as Object > Object Layer Options dialog post-placement) There's no "feature loss" with Placed & Linked INDDs relative to Symbols in Fireworks. Regards, Nathan Curtis (author, EightShapes Unify) Thanks for your compliments. Actually, while InDesign does not support in-document symbol reuse (as Fireworks and Illustrator do), it DOES support cross file linked INDD documents, which replicates if not broadens the variation of reuse. In fact, cross document reuse, using appropriately sized INDD documents (instead of solely inside-document symbols) heightens reuse and sacrifices nothing that you get with Fireworks or Illustrator.

Keys to becoming a cross file INDD ninja:
1) Learn File > Place, including the import options in the subsequent dialog
2) Learn how to crop placed files to reveal only what you want to (essentially, store multiple states in a placed INDD and crop to the variation of interest)
3) Learn Edit > Edit Original, such that you clicked on the placed instance, "Edit Original", it opens the other file, make changes, save, close, return to original file. Same flow as working with Symbols.
4) Make a keyboard shortcut for Edit Original
5) Geek out on showing specific layers and/or pages when placing (again, the import options in the Place dialog as well as Object > Object Layer Options dialog post-placement)

There's no "feature loss" with Placed & Linked INDDs relative to Symbols in Fireworks.

Regards,

Nathan Curtis
(author, EightShapes Unify)

]]> By: Garth Braithwaite http://wireframes.linowski.ca/2009/10/eightshapes-unify/comment-page-1/#comment-6416 Garth Braithwaite Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:14:04 +0000 http://wireframes.linowski.ca/?p=1609#comment-6416 I've been using Unify for awhile now and am very impressed with it. Initially I was a bit miffed by the choice of InDesign but the master pages in InDesign are much better equipped than those in Fireworks. Having shared objects be easily updated would be nice. At least you have the ability to place linked AI and PSDs and have those be easily updated. I've been using Unify for awhile now and am very impressed with it. Initially I was a bit miffed by the choice of InDesign but the master pages in InDesign are much better equipped than those in Fireworks.

Having shared objects be easily updated would be nice. At least you have the ability to place linked AI and PSDs and have those be easily updated.

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